View Full Version : Nikon D800 rollover after 10,000 anyone know?

05-11-2015, 05:09 AM
Hoping someone might be able to help - as I'm having trouble finding this answer.

Sometimes nikon has ridiculous conventions....on my d700, after 10,000 exposures, it gets reset to zero. Stupid beyond belief - I know....because you then have filenames with the same name.....it's probably a 2 second software fix...instead of hassling hundreds of thousands of nikon owners. The way to get around it (after I discovered this) was to change a prefix in your own settings that append the number sequence. But that means being aware of every 10,000 shots....

Does anyone know if the D800 does the same thing - (From where I am, with spotty wifi - I am having trouble researching this.)

Many thx in advance if someone can help!

Ron Cardinale
05-11-2015, 05:07 PM
I believe that it's the same.
Here's what the D800 manual says on page 273 (2011 English version):

"Photographs are saved using file names consisting of “DSC_” or, in the case of images that use the Adobe RGB color space ([Page] 274), “_DSC”, followed by a four-digit number and a three-letter extension (e.g., “DSC_0001.JPG”). The File naming option is used to select three letters to replace the “DSC” portion of the file name. For information on editing file names, see page 170."

05-11-2015, 07:05 PM
thx ron much appreciated....silly nikon.

Matt K.
05-11-2015, 07:38 PM
Marko, I just shot # 10587 .... hope this helps .... oops, that is the shutter count ... no, the D800 only lets you go to 9999 .... you'd have to have a MIGHTY big card in there to shoot more than that in one setting, though, and once you take 'em of the camera, would that not reset automatically?

05-12-2015, 05:16 AM
so it's the same as the d700... such a simple tweak it would be for them...and would make the lives of photographers worldwide so much easier. this is a stupid BURDEN for no reason.
sometimes i just don't get a giant company's logic when it comes to software design....photographers need separate filenames or all hell breaks loose.... so every 10,000 frames is a hassle...and this may happen 10-20 times or more during the life of the camera. silly nikon... let the count run to a million not 9999...and then reset. what is this Y2K again? silly nikon.

05-14-2015, 01:07 PM
If you're shooting with multiple Nikon DSLR's, then it makes sense to rename the files in at least one of the bodies. It's what I did back when I never left the house without the D90 and D300s. When I broke the 90 I shot for a good while with the 300 without worrying about the roll-over. The 90 probably rolled over four or five time before it “rolled- over” and fell to the ground. My folder system on the hard drive is so chaotic and Lightroom only catalogs pieces I've named so it has never been an issue for me.

On the other hand, beware of another issue I've encountered with my D800. It's a little more serious in nature and one you might want to be prepared for. The moment my finger left the shutter button at 50k, the dam'n thing turned into this.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy356/CircleOfConfusion/Minox%2035GL_zpshjux4igx.jpg (http://s807.photobucket.com/user/CircleOfConfusion/media/Minox%2035GL_zpshjux4igx.jpg.html)

I'm not saying that it's a reported issue or that others have had the same problem, but to be on the safe side I think I might bring a roll of 35mm with you when you start to get close to 50k. If it does happen to you, there's a bright side. No more file naming issues.:laugh:

05-14-2015, 08:11 PM
Silly Nikon indeed. That's very funny.

05-15-2015, 02:56 AM
so as I predicted....I went into a sick frenzy of shooting, broke the 10,000 mark and now I got rollover....only 185 files to rename though..and now I've changed the prefix so I'm safe till the next round...silly nikon.

05-28-2015, 09:30 AM
Hoping someone might be able to help - as I'm having trouble finding this answer.

Marko, are you making use of the Custom/Shooting Menu Banks?

05-28-2015, 11:17 AM
i must admit ...not yet - though i did on my d700.
would that help in this case? thx

05-28-2015, 12:30 PM
would that help in this case? thx

I don't know, it might. I've always used them except back when all I had was a D60 or D90. I remember wishing it was a feature on the 90 even before I found out it was available on higher end models.

Anyway, I've just gone into my Shooting Menu and renamed the files in all four Shooting Banks:

A. LND=Landscape
B. ACT=Action
C. POR=Portrait
D. FMC= Full manual control(this is the one where I don't care that the change I make while shooting aren't reset to a default that I've established.)

Looks to me like if one devoted themselves to using the banks for whatever type of work they were doing it would yield the potential (in theory) of 40k releases before anymore file naming was required.

Nikon's approach is broken. After you have carefully set up the banks in both the Shooting Menu and the Custom Settings Menu to allow the camera to best work with a given situation, any changes you might have to make to better the results in varying conditions will remain in effect even after the camera has been turned off. What I mean to say is, your original setting aren't saved as a default.

This fellow has a workaround for it, though. (http://www.tunerphoto.com/custom-settings/) You can download his idea of the correct settings as a .bin file and store it on your card so that they are always the same at the beginning of a shoot. Don't think I'll bother with his, but may create my own instead.

This link takes you to his settings for the D800 using three of the four banks. (http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52c45010e4b00f698a1b2a7a/t/548893b9e4b0a541b2f790d7/1418236857390/D800+Shooting+%26+Custom+Menu+Banks+1214.pdf) Notice that he has changed file names in the Shooting Banks.

06-24-2015, 09:12 PM
Well, if it's any consolation, Canon is pretty much the same. Both my XSi and my T3i roll over at 10,000 back to "0001". :(

07-25-2015, 01:09 PM
My Pentax is worse unlike my Nikon D7000 my Pentax K10D does not allow me to alter RAW files to say anything but IMGPxxxx at least the Nikon does allow you to change the letters. I am up to 14933 with Pentax with Nikon 7945 so not reached role over yet. I do find the DSC_xxxx handy being different from Pentax so no clash with numbers.

Still learning Nikon there are far too many features I was considering buying a time delay shutter release I had used SM Tether but it was discharging the battery all the time it is running so very limited how long it could run for. Then find it's built into the camera. The K10D is a much older sensor and getting use to the ISO range is taking some getting use to.

But picture numbers really role on when one uses bracketed photos, last shoot 163 RAW files but only got 69 Jpegs from that. I look at the scene and realise there is likely a problem with dynamic range and so set camera to +2 standard -2 EV often I only select one after and don't combine to HDR but it gives me the option latter. Yes I have a display and can look for blinkies, but to me viewing pictures taken means missing a picture to take so most of the viewing left until I return home.