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Michaelaw
05-27-2010, 12:15 AM
So I trotted off and bought me a quad 27" I-Mac :D...Learning to fly all over again but I'm having fun. Going to load win XP in as I don't have any Mac software yet. I always said my PC could do anything a Mac can do and while that was true, I don't recall it being this much fun:laughing: My internet is flaky right now, Telus is sending new modem and a tech tomorrow. Looks like I'll be active again soon....

Lovin
05-27-2010, 01:04 AM
OMG Windows on Mac? That's profanation :D lol

Congrats for your new computer ! You will love it !

Fortytwo
05-27-2010, 02:27 AM
Heretic! Going to Mac! :mad:

J/K! Have fun with the new toy. 27" sounds delicious...

JAS_Photo
05-27-2010, 02:38 AM
Alright and congrats! That's where you have been. BTW, Telus is so evil that satan worships it. Take it from someone who has cast their lot to the Telus demon. :)

Michaelaw
05-27-2010, 03:12 AM
Alright and congrats! That's where you have been. BTW, Telus is so evil that satan worships it. Take it from someone who has cast their lot to the Telus demon. :)

I said the very same thing about Shaw not that long ago:laughing: They're all evil!!! I have been given some extended connectivity tonight born of weirdness. I was on the phone bitching once again at tech support. The guy at the other end of the call told me to pull the power switch on the modem,I pulled it and we were cut off. He didn't call me back to follow up and I didn't want to dance back into the arena jumping through the hoops of the automated greeting. I like to think he understood my concerns and though we were cut off prematurely,he made it his life's goal tp fix my connection, cos I've been going like a bat from hell ever since:laughing::laughing:

Michaelaw
05-27-2010, 03:15 AM
OMG Windows on Mac? That's profanation :D lol

Congrats for your new computer ! You will love it !

I feel like somebody handed me a silicone crack pipe :laughing:

Michaelaw
05-27-2010, 03:20 AM
Heretic! Going to Mac! :mad:



Don't worry, I still have my XP laptop as a liferaft :laughing:

Richard
05-27-2010, 03:24 AM
We run Windows XP, Windows Vista 64, and Windows 7 on various Mac Pro's around the office. (Love Bootcamp). It seems a trouble free relation between mac and windows on whole.

Fortytwo
05-27-2010, 04:31 AM
Don't worry, I still have my XP laptop as a liferaft :laughing:

You soul is not yet lost... ;)

Grant
05-27-2010, 07:05 AM
Another convert to the dark side. ;-)



Going to load win XP in as I don't have any Mac software yet.


I did that with my first Mac and while it worked I never found I needed to use XP, but it was comforting to have that option.

iLife comes with the machine and this gives you a good but basic photographic program as well as some other cool tools.


For my first software I did purchase iWorks and Adobe allowed me to migrate all my software for the cost of mailing me new Mac disks, $15 a program if I remember well but the mind is not what it use to be.

Check with other softwares companies as there are others that will do the same to make transfer easier.

Michaelaw
05-28-2010, 01:09 AM
I'm going to be awol for a bit longer as I try to get this mac workflow into my brain as I have a show coming up and I need to be in place. I sure do miss the right click functionality of my PC:wall-an: I think the advice I was given by the salesman was wrong. He figured that the ability to run Mac and Windows at the same time was the way to go, so far I think I need to run them independently at boot. I love the Mac but am realizing that it's a rigid OS wanting to format my way of computing to its personality, XP was way more apt to work with me. Of course I have to remember that I've been a windows user since win 3.1 and am on the first day with macs OS though I had two years working with Power Macs in college. Anyhow, it's going to take me a while to get a flow going but I shall return soon:laughing:

mbrager
05-28-2010, 01:22 AM
Hey Michael: There's something very amusing to me imagining you trying to get up to speed on a Mac, given all the near religious controversy between the two OSs. I'm sure you will have many, many more ironies to share, and I'm looking forward to them. Can't wait to hear your photo editing comments, etcetera. I miss your photo posts, too.
Mike

Lovin
05-28-2010, 01:39 AM
I'm going to be awol for a bit longer as I try to get this mac workflow into my brain as I have a show coming up and I need to be in place. I sure do miss the right click functionality of my PC:wall-an: I think the advice I was given by the salesman was wrong. He figured that the ability to run Mac and Windows at the same time was the way to go, so far I think I need to run them independently at boot. I love the Mac but am realizing that it's a rigid OS wanting to format my way of computing to its personality, XP was way more apt to work with me. Of course I have to remember that I've been a windows user since win 3.1 and am on the first day with macs OS though I had two years working with Power Macs in college. Anyhow, it's going to take me a while to get a flow going but I shall return soon:laughing:

1. You do have right click on mouse :wall-an: :D
2. Parallel Desktop is the one that can run smoothly the Windows on your Mac.
3. To uninstall and install software never been easier
4. Welcome in Apple family! :grouphug:

Marko
05-28-2010, 10:05 AM
Congrats Maw - sounds like an awesome machine you bought!

Bambi
05-28-2010, 10:50 AM
I'm going to be awol for a bit longer as I try to get this mac workflow into my brain as I have a show coming up and I need to be in place. I sure do miss the right click functionality of my PC:wall-an: I think the advice I was given by the salesman was wrong. He figured that the ability to run Mac and Windows at the same time was the way to go, so far I think I need to run them independently at boot. I love the Mac but am realizing that it's a rigid OS wanting to format my way of computing to its personality, XP was way more apt to work with me. Of course I have to remember that I've been a windows user since win 3.1 and am on the first day with macs OS though I had two years working with Power Macs in college. Anyhow, it's going to take me a while to get a flow going but I shall return soon:laughing:

lol, change can be hard. But new learning keeps our brains nimble. (as long as they don't explode). :thumbup::D

Michaelaw
05-31-2010, 01:24 AM
A smooth transition is not happening, the Imac fights me all the way. Had to reload the OS once already and silly problems everywhere! So far glitches all over the joint. Some of it is due to me I'm sure but so far the idea of "just plug em in and they go" has not happened! I will ride this horse but I'm gonna sleep in on Mac Sunday as I'm not a convert yet, just another confused user:wall-an:

Grant
05-31-2010, 07:29 AM
A smooth transition is not happening, the Imac fights me all the way. Had to reload the OS once already and silly problems everywhere!


First you should never have to reload the OS. Second most problems for new converts are because they think is is a whole lot harder than it is and try to approach tasks as the did with a Windows based Machine. Third use the Mac support after all you payed for it and they are awesome. Fourth if you have a friend that is Mac friendly ask them for help. Fifth ask on the internet or by email and I for one am just an email away.

You mentioned that you missed the right click. Go to System Preferences found under the apple symbol at the top left. Select the mouse Icon form the pop up. Check "Secondary click" and select "right" and now you have right click.

Michaelaw
05-31-2010, 08:48 AM
If I hadn't reloaded the OS I'd still be in computer hell! Before a reload, the Mac would not sleep, it would instead close it's eyes for ten seconds and then wake up again, it would also randomly play two high tones on it's audio system that even a shutdown would not stop. Upon shutdown, it would claim that I had to manually shut down with the power button, then upon coming back to life it would insist that I had shut it down because of a problem and ask If I wanted to send a report to Apple?. The mouse would not stay put on any of the menu items in the finder but would jump between selections going back and forth between menu items. After an OS reload, all this silly stuff went away. I have 90 days of mac support at this point as I didn't yet buy into "Applecare". Before reloading the OS I called The support number but they were closed. No one I can think of has a mac, so no support on that front. Internet did provide some clues but on the whole, did not supply the fixes I needed and a lot of the info I found was esoteric, seeming to assume I'd owned a Mac forever and knew what the hell they were talking about. I am aware of the right click function but find a few of the functions in right click are missing from what I am used to in windows OS. One function I miss is the right click/send to function which allowed me to send a file to any location I chose. One thing I was happy about despite what I'd read on the OS disk, was that the OS reload not only solved my issues but also left my files and settings intact:) The paralells desktop win XP thing is a bit quirky but on the whole running fairly smoothly but I still thing I'd prefer a boot scenario of choosing which OS to run. I don't regret my purchase of the Imac at all, It's a fine machine though I can't get my head around all this power coming from such a small space somewhere within the screen:laughing: If you can provide some insight into my problems before I reloaded the OS I'm all ears as I'd prefer not to have to do another install again:thumbup:

Michaelaw
06-02-2010, 11:45 AM
Bye Bye Imac....Returned it to the store for refund and I never want to see another. Had it all set up, then bam! it went totally sideways. Was not comfortable with it or its methods. So back in the hole I go to build a real computer :thumbup:

Bambi
06-02-2010, 12:11 PM
Bye Bye Imac....Returned it to the store for refund and I never want to see another. Had it all set up, then bam! it went totally sideways. Was not comfortable with it or its methods. So back in the hole I go to build a real computer :thumbup:

oh no. are you sure that you just didn't get a lemon?

mbrager
06-03-2010, 02:27 AM
Hey Michael:
Somehow I'm not surprised at this turn of events. I've built several desktops and didn't find it that hard if you have enough patience.
I used this guide on Ars Technica: Ars System Guide: October 2009 Edition (http://arstechnica.com/hardware/guides/2009/10/ars-system-guide-october-2009-edition.ars) Don't go for the God Box.
I enjoyed your comments about the iMac. Hope you'll keep us informed about the next chapter. Good luck.
Mike

Fortytwo
06-03-2010, 04:02 AM
bye bye imac....returned it to the store for refund and i never want to see another. Had it all set up, then bam! It went totally sideways. Was not comfortable with it or its methods. So back in the hole i go to build a real computer :thumbup:

wb... ;)

Michaelaw
06-03-2010, 11:28 AM
well....Chapter two starts off like this. computer store determined that a ram sim on the Mac was at fault so it was pooched before i ever got it home. You'd think that would have been caught at the plant? The smooth talking salesman convinced me to try again. The kicker is that though I didn't know it, our ops manager at the shop (A mac Guru) has his Imac running win xp along with OS X
and also Win 7 on a separate partition calling it perfect, seamless and flawless:headslap: After about twenty minutes on the phone with him, I'm totally convinced that what I want to achieve with the Imac is absolutely not an issue as long as the Imac is sound. So I'm going to try again after the new one is given a clean bill of health by the store. The Store was going to set it up but I felt I'd learn more doing it myself especially after trying to fly a crippled one, that taught me a lot:laughing: This time it's gonna work!!!

Bambi
06-03-2010, 02:13 PM
I figured that it had to be something like that. It's nice to know that I'm right :)

Michaelaw
06-05-2010, 11:55 PM
New Mac is a flyin :thumbup: HD partitioned, Snow Leopard one side, Win XP the other. Took a few days to get it tuned up but it's rockin now :highfive:

mbrager
06-06-2010, 12:06 AM
Excellent outcome and best of both worlds. I see you are back taking pictures as well. Nice ones.
Best. Mike

Lovin
06-06-2010, 01:37 AM
I'm happy to hear the good news ! :)

Michaelaw
06-06-2010, 02:38 AM
There are still hurdles. The gamma of windows in bootcamp is hard to get ones head around. I tried Adobe gamma but it did not go well. Where PC's give you both brightness and contrast control in Windows, Mac seems to only concern itself with brightness?

Michaelaw
06-09-2010, 04:04 PM
Update... One week into running windows on a formatted partition and It's clear that the Mac is not as capable at running windows XP as a dedicated PC motherboard. More program crashes in a week that I had in two years running my old box. The Apple keyboard and mouse are problematic. I lost a schwack of files during a move from one drive to another. Thunderbird crashed twice and drive performance is slow. There are a few quirks on the Mac side too with files locking for no apparent reason and being asked for my password for any system change I want to make. The right click mouse function is a poor copy of the windows function. The mac is staying but I'm reluctant to use for production at this time especially in "Bootcamp" mode as it's way too flaky. I can't afford the issues it brings to the table. My computer needs to be totally dependable as my time frames for production are often tight, I can't have the machine tell me "Data transfer failed, all files were lost" as happened this morning. I'm going to revive my quad PC by replacing the motherboard and CPU for my upcoming show so I'll have faith I will have a flawless show produced. The Mac will be formatted and run as a dedicated Mac and slowly I'll get the software I need for OS X for production. Sadly, the MAC/Windows Bootcamp deal can't be trusted at this time:wall-an:

Bambi
06-09-2010, 08:53 PM
oh MAW! that totally sucks. Sorry to hear about your problems.