8.0 Rant

[casil403]

So is it the same as drunk drivers who speak at MAD meetings and try to dissuade people for drinking and driving? Should they not be allowed to do that either?
There is absolutely no excuse for drunk driving...however people do it....they kill and maim and they go to jail...personally I don't think that is enough IMO. But some try to make amends by becoming part of MAD and speaking out against DD to keep people from making mistakes they did....and some go back and do it again and again. I respect people who try and make up for their crimes in a positive manner after they have committed them..spin or not. Vick didn't have to do anything..he did his time and hey one hand does wash the other so both he and the AHS are benefiting...but in the end, if it keeps one less person from owning a pitbull for the wrong reasons or thinking twice going to a dogfight and forking over the money (which really hits the lowlifes running dogfighting where they should be hit...in the pocketbook) then that's enough for me.

[AcadieLibre]

Society is to deal in Justice not Revenge, I have seen and been horrified by so much more than what Vick's did, Drunk Driver's, etc. As a society we should rehabilitate as we justly punish those guilty but when they serve their time they have paid their debt to society. Read Les Misérables by Victor Hugo. When do we become a society of lifetime punishment for every crime that upsets people, people do horrible, horrible things and need to be punished but societies job is to serve justice not seek revenge.

Yes they try to make these jocks out to be what they are not, they are people and and those who put them on pedestals are to blame and so is our useless, ignorant, line towing, ass kissing, Media and the ignorant mass of sheep we call people and the inept politicians people keep electing to office. Once we seek revenge instead of justice we are not better than Fascist, Totalitarian Societies. Vick's did his time, he has every right now to seek whatever life he can, I think he's a MOFO, but he served his time and if the peons want to make him a hero, it just shows the intelligence of society.

PS: This is my opinion, this is the only statement I will making on this, on Politics and Justice no quarter is asked or given.

[casil403]

In fact Michael Vick has apologized.....
Michael Vick Blogs Apology For Dog Fighting | Michael Vick : Just Jared

[Marko]

The award is the only point here imo, and it's disgusting. He did his time, it's true but AWARD worthy?....

Only because this former, and now completely rehabilitated, animal torturer is a millionaire quarterback, does he get an award. It's a disgusting joke and I am in awe that so many people swallow this up without vomiting.

I love individual Americans, but how so much of "America" is about money really gets me down sometimes. I mean if I was the one torturing animals for sport, and I went to jail...and I did my time...should I get an award because I've seen the error of my ways and now I have stopped torturing animals? Who would buy tickets for MY speaking tour?

I would never get that award because I'm not a famous American quarterback that can generate millions of dollars for a sports-team. This award and his going to schools is pure marketing imo.

Btw - full disclosure - I'm a big time animal lover and it's hard for me to forgive animal torturers....let alone give them awards.

[Bambi]

Thank you Marko for understanding my point.

He's done his time. It's done. Have I forgiven him? NO. Does he care? Nope. But it's irrelevant. He can go live his life and I will live mine. I don't want him to die, go back to jail or have rocks thrown at him. But I don't see how he merits an award. for going to jail. for something he admits he did. but only after the others who were charged pled guilty and implicated him.

My problem is that he is getting an award for it. He has not done enough to merit it. If he continues to advocate on behalf of dogs 2 years from now then I will start to be impressed. The cynical part of me is thinking that it will all stop before then. when it's no longer needed.

I read what he wrote (thanks Casil) but don't accept it at this point as from himself rather then professionally written. I love how he puts in his sad story of his childhood was short on details so not sure how genuine it is at this point.

I have yet to see what he's done to merit a Bravery award. period.

[Marko]

we're so on the same page bambi...and his apology looks carefully crafted by a speechwriter to me.

IF he continues this speaking tour for a coupla years...I likely WILL change my mind....because then he really is making a difference...but not now.
Too soon, and all of this is wrapped up in money and PR.

[casil403]

So many opinions...so little time.
Michael Vick’s Apology - Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com