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Matt K.
11-11-2012, 09:11 PM
there is a portraiture contest coming up, and I would like to know which one of the two images I should submit .. or do the both suck? .... and why is there a stupid drop down thing on "submit"???? I did not put that there ....

The Girl with Red Hair
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8177167291_270a97cdea_c.jpg

Been there ...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8177166951_9b80c7842e_c.jpg

Runmonty
11-12-2012, 06:04 AM
I like them both Matt, but prefer the 2nd. Would also consider cropping just tad off the left and bottom

Doug L
11-12-2012, 09:07 AM
I like the 2nd image - lots of emotional content in that one. Maybe consider cloning out (darkening) the bright background area at the back of his neck? Again, nice shot. Very stirring.

Marko
11-12-2012, 09:09 AM
Shot 2 for me as well.
I hear RM's comment about a left crop and I agree, (you cropped off another soldier's nose). I might try a crop to the ear of the soldier in the bkgd.... Or i might darken the whole soldier.

asnow
11-12-2012, 09:14 AM
My vote is for the 2nd one as well

belliveau
11-12-2012, 10:38 AM
ya the photo of the combat eng officer is nice and will be great with the simple crop.

Bambi
11-12-2012, 12:38 PM
yup, #2 with the suggestions above

Matt K.
11-12-2012, 07:46 PM
Thanks all ... so I did a crop, and a bit of cloning work ... and then I applied a low key filter ... which one now?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8180440849_aefbca9473_c.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8205/8180441025_c25ff6a5fc_c.jpg

JustinRyan215
11-12-2012, 07:54 PM
I am gonna go with number one...the second one has him looking a little pale, almost deathly....

Realist
11-12-2012, 09:24 PM
I am gonna go with number one...the second one has him looking a little pale, almost deathly....

I second that.

Matt K.
11-12-2012, 09:40 PM
Ok ok ..so a bit more work on the image, I think I have got it to where it should be acceptable

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8063/8180744036_c7a5eecb00_c.jpg

Realist
11-12-2012, 09:50 PM
Looks better than before.

Marko
11-13-2012, 09:59 AM
I agree!

mbrager
11-14-2012, 02:00 AM
I kind of like both images for different reasons. I hate choosing one over another. The first image of a pretty red head is a great exposure with excellent sharpness. Eye contact is perfect. Some cleaning up is needed of a few make up flecks and something around her mouth. Nothing a bit of cloning won't fix. I have a red head daughter so this plays a part in my reaction to the photo. The second shot of the veteran has an immediate emotional impact partly, I suppose, because of the time of year, and the way we think about our veterans. This is also a good exposure that you have tweaked, but I kind of like the second poppy on the soldier in the background, as it lends depth to the image. The fellow himself is so focused and thoughtful, I can't help but wonder what he is thinking.
What I like about both images is your risk taking in photographing them "in the wild", taking portraits without studio lighting, on the fly. Nice job.

Andrew
11-17-2012, 09:26 AM
The brass buttons on the soldier in the background are still distracting and need toning down. Lower than the subjects as a minimum. And on a completely different leaning,,,,I'm not a fan of colour toning but reducing the saturation on everything to a point where the face barely has colour, except for the poppy and the medals which stay where they are, produced an interesting result I liked.

Lucky-Luc
11-18-2012, 06:04 AM
I second that.

I too

Matt K.
11-18-2012, 11:24 PM
I kind of like both images for different reasons. ..... What I like about both images is your risk taking in photographing them "in the wild", taking portraits without studio lighting, on the fly. Nice job.

Thanks Michael


The brass buttons on the soldier in the background are still distracting and need toning down ....

Thanks Andrew. Yes, there are always partially distracting things in any photograph, and yes, one can tome it down incredibly. However, I think i am opting to let them stand as they are ... otherwise I would have to take the other face out as well ... and that would no longer show the actual scene.