The Trouble With Pine Grosbeaks

[aubintbay]

I see these little guys on the road several times a day on trips out to work and have been trying to shoot them with little success. I think the problem is the continued grey and sunless days for the last few weeks combined with the featureless background. Any pics I take appear under exposed and dark. Both of these are shot with a canon 70-300 at 300. the one with a little bit of sun was at f10 and obviously came out a little better. The other was a f4 trying to compensate for the dim day. At first look they were all very noisy/grainy most of which was removed in LR. The only saving grace to the darker photo is that I caught 1 in mid hop, otherwise not much of a shot.
Bumped the iso up but that did'nt do much either. Believe it or not these were the best I could manage.....even with processing.
Whats the solution??

[Hillbillygirl]

Got several that look just like that Aub. Love the little hop caught in #1.

One word for you that will help, "FLASH".

[aubintbay]

Thanks for the tip on the flash Hbg! Tried it out today with some success.
results were still a little hit/miss but definitely improved. Both the attached shots are 1/1 crops shot with the 70-300 at 300mm, f4, +2ev, and 430 ex2 cranked right up. I think I need some practice but I have all winter *sigh*
Its the first time I have seen the crossed bill.

[Doug L]

... Its the first time I have seen the crossed bill.

Indeed, these latest shots are of male White-winged Crossbills. Very similar in markings as the Pine Grosbeak but they are quite a bit smaller in size. I'm no expert but am looking at the Sibley guidebook. Nice capture!

[Marko]

Shot 1 in post 1 looks underexposed. Did you try to capture that same scene with more exposure? If not, why not?

Your exif data shows lots of room for play for increased exposure.
Personally I don't use center weighted average metering very often as this bases the exposure on the center of the image...and my focal point is rarely central. This may have affected the exposure of this image.



Date Time Original: 2011:11:21 10:04:43
Exposure Time: 1/500
F Number: 5.6
Exposure Program: Aperture priority
ISO Speed Ratings: 125
Metering Mode: CenterWeightedAverage
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal Length: 300
White Balance: Auto white balance

[Andrew]

The snow is over-driving your meter. Try using a grey card to set the exposure. Alternatively, measure the light off of something else in the area that doesn't have so much snow in the frame. Recompose focus and shoot. Having that much snow in the photo will present so much contrast that you may not be able to get that great shot you're looking for while they are on the ground there.

[aubintbay]

Hey doug. After looking at these I was coming to the realization that I probably had 2 kinds of bird here. Thx for the info!

Marko
Been working on these for a few days here trying to get the improved exposure. The 1st two I tried to keep the f value down and let the iso float thinking it would go up a bit and help exposure... iso did not go up much.
The second set I had the tip from hbg and had been surfing and found recommendations to increase exposure comp 1 1/2 to 2. So on the second 2 shots I went with the 430 flash and +2ev and noticed a considerable improvement (yay)
I will try changing the metering as well....thx, and will bump up the iso manually to 400 and try that next.
Also the posted pictures (all 4) look quite a bit darker than my edits. The board is darkening them a bit.