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    Just wondering AT -

    How many focus points were selected?
    Have these been cropped very much? - if so what sort of %?
    I am guessing the vignetting was put in during post processing? (it is a little heavy for me but thta is personal opinion)
    I note that the sharpest image is at the shortest focal length. Wonder if this if the lens is softer at longer focal lengths or does it indicate blurring due to camera movement.

    Unlike Jim & Iggy, I find that when shooting multiple players in action, a single point focus will result in lots of lost shots unless you are tracking just one player. I use a few focus points around the centre. Also most cameras will try to re focus on the closest point. This causes problems when someone runs in front of the action you are recording. Some camera have a function (seperate to the AI servo) that prevents this and it may be worth reading the manual to see if your can disable this function for sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runmonty View Post
    Just wondering AT -

    How many focus points were selected?
    Have these been cropped very much? - if so what sort of %?
    I am guessing the vignetting was put in during post processing? (it is a little heavy for me but thta is personal opinion)
    I note that the sharpest image is at the shortest focal length. Wonder if this if the lens is softer at longer focal lengths or does it indicate blurring due to camera movement.

    Unlike Jim & Iggy, I find that when shooting multiple players in action, a single point focus will result in lots of lost shots unless you are tracking just one player. I use a few focus points around the centre. Also most cameras will try to re focus on the closest point. This causes problems when someone runs in front of the action you are recording. Some camera have a function (seperate to the AI servo) that prevents this and it may be worth reading the manual to see if your can disable this function for sports.
    I selected all AF points. This maybe my problem. I think I was supposed to select just one (center most likely)

    These images have been cropped (little to a lot) due to the quick action. The vignette was added because of the bright sunlight. I was trying to rid some of the bright spots in the BG.

    I was trying to track just one player (my daughter in #2 with arm extended and illegal high kick ) or one of the two girls in white jerseys in #1 & #3 (daughters of friends).

    There is something I am missing when setting the camera. I selected AI Servo, set camera in TV priority (1/1000). I think I am not setting the AF points correctly. I will go back and re-study.
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    I suspect the camera will have trouble locking on a focus point when all selected. You can try 1 point as suggested by Jim & Iggy. As I said that doesn't work for me, and if you have problems you may wish to try just few around the centre.

    In the last shot you appear to be shooting from the opposite side of the pitch and maybe the crop is just too great for sharp images.

    I think the 2nd shot is quite good and sharp and you should be happy with that.

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    Luckily, we have soccer practice tonight and tomorrow night, which means camera practice for me. I will be back in a few hours with today's practice shots. I am putting the camera in single point AF
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    I just had a (very quick) look at the 60D manual. I am not sure that you can select just a few points like I suggested. It appears it may be all or one. Perhaps ignore my suggestion of a few points around the centre. Sorry for the confusion.
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    A couple of thoughts.
    1. Perhaps your lens doesn't focus fast so it doesn't keep up the the fast moving action in AI Servo
    2. I haven't done these type of pictures, however if it was me I would try using the centre point and just keep it on the subject (your daughter) with the back button focus pressed, and do a burst of shots when the action is right.. Have a little less zoom and crop as required in post.

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    If it were myself, as everyone and yourself have already figured, use single point focus.
    Now I see you are using apertures down to f7.1 in second one, BUT also see that the girl 20ft or so back is still in focus. Use an aperture down around 4.0-5.6 and up the shutter a bit to 1250-1500 to get the action just that much sharper with the freeze-frame capability, along with separating the action from the background more.
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