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This is a discussion on As shot\No post within the Critiques forums, part of the Photography & Fine art photography category; As I indicated elsewhere here, HDR on buildings is most often unnecessary. This photo was AS SHOT, from a fast ...

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    As I indicated elsewhere here, HDR on buildings is most often unnecessary.
    This photo was AS SHOT, from a fast moving car with NO postprocessing.

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    from a fast moving car? Oh my Must've been a very fast shutter speed.
    Awesome shot tegan, I really like it.

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    Interesting; what combination of settings resulted in that unusual appearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tirediron View Post
    Interesting; what combination of settings resulted in that unusual appearance?
    1/320 sec. at f. 5, ISO 100, 27mm focal length
    polarizing filter adjusted to maximum
    dynamic range optimizer adjusted to maximum

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    dynamic range optimizer adjusted to maximum
    I really like this shot tegan and like it even more based on the conditions it was taken in.

    But I'm guessing that it is the dynamic processer that is adding that extra something to the tones to the shot. If this is the case then I think it's a bit misleading to say "as shot" with no post processing...since others could not get that effect if they did not have the dynamic range optimizer.

    Can you show us what the shot would have looked liked without this optimizer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marko View Post
    I really like this shot tegan and like it even more based on the conditions it was taken in.

    But I'm guessing that it is the dynamic processer that is adding that extra something to the tones to the shot. If this is the case then I think it's a bit misleading to say "as shot" with no post processing...since others could not get that effect if they did not have the dynamic range optimizer.

    Can you show us what the shot would have looked liked without this optimizer?

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    There is NO dynamic processor that adds anything to the tones of the shot.
    It is a metering system that does selective calculations to areas of the photo against a brighter background and adjusts metering on the fly.

    So, it is "as shot", despite what others have or don't have on their cameras. As a matter of fact wasn't someone previously differentiating between camera shooting and postprocessing as well as suggesting that all photography did not involve manipulation? Are camera features such as specialized metering now grouped in with post maniplation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tegan View Post
    There is NO dynamic processor that adds anything to the tones of the shot.
    It is a metering system that does selective calculations to areas of the photo against a brighter background and adjusts metering on the fly.

    So, it is "as shot", despite what others have or don't have on their cameras. As a matter of fact wasn't someone previously differentiating between camera shooting and postprocessing as well as suggesting that all photography did not involve manipulation? Are camera features such as specialized metering now grouped in with post maniplation?

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    Are you suggesting that the tones in this image are NOT unusual and that this optimizer is not doing somthing unique? For me they are starting to have a coloured-infra-red look.

    Not really interested in getting into this one again. For me the main goal of this board has always been sharing, teaching and learning. So if someone says it's as shot, in my mind, someone else should be able to learn from that and go take that same shot from the fast moving car using the same shutter speed/aperture combination and get the same shot.

    But all tings being equal,they can't unless they buy your camera.

    That was my only point here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marko View Post
    Are you suggesting that the tones in this image are NOT unusual and that this optimizer is not doing somthing unique? For me they are starting to have a coloured-infra-red look.

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    I certainly am. Of course, they have been sandblasting and cleaning the Parliament buildings so I find a difference from my previous shots when the buildings were much dirtier. I have also been finding that my polarizer has given a more detailed, toned look to buildings as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marko View Post
    if someone says it's as shot, in my mind, someone else should be able to learn from that and go take that same shot from the fast moving car using the same shutter speed/aperture combination and get the same shot.

    But all tings being equal,they can't unless they buy your camera.

    That was my only point here.
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    You are not being realistic, Marko. I would say that anyone with a quality polarizer and the right natural lighting could get the same shot. Nikon has a post shot, dynamic light system as opposed to mine, but nevertheless, they could probably produce a similar shot as well. Members here have Nikons, Olympus, Sony and other cameras as well as Canon, so yes, they can get the same shot, if they check out what available options are available in their camera menus.

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    Could I get the same shot with the Pentax K-100? a Nikon FM2 or a Canon AE-1? (all old film cameras)
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