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    Thanks Marko & DonW,
    You're both right in all points you mentioned.

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    I do like the smile and lighting in shot 1.

    I have the 680EX and on the weekend I was at a wedding. Not wanting to look pretentious, and because knew the official photographer(I introduced the bride and groom to the photographer) I did not use the external flash at the service and stuck with 40Ds on-board flash. At the reception once the official photographer had left I got over what everyone else thought and put on the "big" flash. The difference is remarkable. I was able to achieve reasonable shutter speeds and drop the ISO to get some awesome candids. I found you get some hilarious shots one people have had a few drinks and relax Anyway, my point is, it is worth the effort to understand these flashes. The other thing I notice is that many pros use diffusers to minimise the tell tale signs that a flash has been used.

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    Thanks AntZ.

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    The other thing I notice is that many pros use diffusers to minimise the tell tale signs that a flash has been used.
    Yeah I found them too harsh at times also. I almost always wish for a diffuser when I see 'the tell tale signs' but couldn't get one around here. I think any translucent sticky tape could do the job but haven't tried that. By the way, is there any case where you need the harsh flash light? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yisehaq View Post
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    Yeah I found them too harsh at times also. I almost always wish for a diffuser when I see 'the tell tale signs' but couldn't get one around here. I think any translucent sticky tape could do the job but haven't tried that. By the way, is there any case where you need the harsh flash light? Just curious.
    There are so many different ways to use a flash gun. Bounced off the ceiling is the easiest. Experiment, I promise you will come up great results. Check out strobist.com and / or Bert Stephani on you tube for some great ideas.

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    By the way, is there any case where you need the harsh flash light? Just curious.
    But of course. Hard direct flash is great for an edgy feel when taken off camera. On a bride or woman though, better if they look like a model and have flawless makeup.

    It's also used direct on camera when you need the light (like at an event at night)

    It can also be used as Fill on a bright sunny day.

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    I think you missed something very important in a portrait: the background. Without a compelling background you will end up with a boring candid picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonW View Post
    Bounced off the ceiling is the easiest. Experiment, I promise you will come up great results.
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    Do I have to positively compensate the flash power when I bounce or tilt the flash say to 45 deg? When I try this situation, the flash seems to produce weaker power even when I use E-TTL. My rule of thumb is that I try to compensate +1 when I used the flash as the main light source and -1 when I used it as fill-in when seems okay when I use it directly but when I bounce it or tilt, it does give me the same strength. Am I missing anything?

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    My 680EX just seems to cope. I mostly leave it in auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yisehaq View Post
    Do I have to positively compensate the flash power when I bounce or tilt the flash say to 45 deg? When I try this situation, the flash seems to produce weaker power even when I use E-TTL. My rule of thumb is that I try to compensate +1 when I used the flash as the main light source and -1 when I used it as fill-in when seems okay when I use it directly but when I bounce it or tilt, it does give me the same strength. Am I missing anything?
    Im not sure about the flash capabilities of your flash/camera setup. If your camera is in auto, av or tv mode the flash will be controlled by ettl UNLESS you set the flash to full manual. If the camera is in manual mode you set the flash manually also with either the flash or with EC.

    So assuming for a minute you want to use AV and bounce off the ceiling. Set your flash to fire full power. Take a test shot then use EC to tone down the flash as needed. If you find the bounce is not strong enough then you will need a stronger flash. This doesnt mean go buy a new flash. You can use a different reflective source or get the flash off the camera.

    Getting the flash off the camera is probably the best of both worlds. It doesnt matter if its by cable or by triggers. Getting the light either left or right will really help your shots, as will getting it up high. With OCF you can hold it close to the ceiling for a stronger bounce.

    Hopefully some of my babble makes sense. If not look at the Bert Stephani videos on youtube and check out the Nikon site there is a few new videos showing ways to use your flash gun effectively.

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    Thanks DonW,
    The experiment will continue. Currently, I am refering this site by neil van niekerk which I find very resourceful. That is were I got the compensation staff. I will check the resouces you refered to,too.

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