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    The focal length of the lens is in theory measured from where the light waves cross with pin hole camera to where the film is placed. Because that will depend on film size the amount of seen captured with a 35mm film with 400mm lens will be same as 23.5mm film with 270mm lens as the lens can be closer to the film plane as shown. But with the D-SLR the lens is not closer but the light is projected to non receptive area. This allows the same lens to be used with both film and CCD cameras. In some cases the diameter of the lens will only allow it to be used with smaller film plain so it is marked with effective length. Therefore a lens marked 18mm – 55mm on a 23.5mm CCD can give exactly the same results as a lens marked 27mm – 82mm on a 35mm film (Compare black and green lines). Conversely a 400mm lens from a 35mm film camera becomes a 600mm lens on a 23.5mm CCD camera (Red lines).
    Just checking I have got this right before handing in my work?

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    No ... you spelt 'length' wrong!

    As far as the rest is concerned ... dunno ... I've never bothered to look into it this closely.

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    I assume the question is what is the difference between full frame and crop frame cameras. Full frame cameras have a sensor the same size as the 35mm film cameras. Crop frame cameras have smaller sensors and there is a wide variety of these. Your diagram is attempting to explain the differences when using the same lens on different size "film" or sensors.
    Try this link for another explanation of the same thing: DSLR Magnification
    You an see for yourself where your work and the article's information match up. Hope this helps and isn't more confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbrager View Post
    I assume the question is what is the difference between full frame and crop frame cameras. Full frame cameras have a sensor the same size as the 35mm film cameras. Crop frame cameras have smaller sensors and there is a wide variety of these. Your diagram is attempting to explain the differences when using the same lens on different size "film" or sensors.
    Try this link for another explanation of the same thing: DSLR Magnification
    You an see for yourself where your work and the article's information match up. Hope this helps and isn't more confusing.
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    Seems to match up OK. Since it will be part of my exam though it would be good to check first so seems I just need to correct spelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Aussie View Post
    No ... you spelt 'length' wrong!

    As far as the rest is concerned ... dunno ... I've never bothered to look into it this closely.
    MA...you spelled "Spelled" wrong! Lol...spelt is a type of flour/grain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by casil403 View Post
    MA...you spelled "Spelled" wrong! Lol...spelt is a type of flour/grain!
    That's only 1 meaning. Spelt is also the past tense of Spell
    Spelt | Define Spelt at Dictionary.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Aussie View Post
    That's only 1 meaning. Spelt is also the past tense of Spell
    Spelt | Define Spelt at Dictionary.com

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    Poor Eric. At least someone answered his question. Very good link btw mbrager. So what we are saying here, in very basic terms is that a lens that gives a normal view on a 35mm or full frame camera over extends its range on a crop frame camera and gives the appearance of a longer lens. So tecnically, if I have a very good crop frame camera and take an awesome photo of an eagle, and say Micaelaw has a very good full frame camera and takes an awesome photo of an eagle with the same lens from the same distance, he should be able to crop his photo down to the have the subject the same size as mine without losing resolution because technically mine is already a crop of sorts. Does that make sense?
    http://luminous-landscape.com/tutori...dslr-mag.shtml
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    the focal length remains the same. if it is 300mm it is 300mm when used in any camera. it is the camera format that changes.
    like the 90mm is considered as wide angle in 4x5 view cameras, it remains a 90mm lens. what changes is the covering power of the lens like the 90mm for a 4x5 can cover more than the diagonal of the film giving room for tilts and swings
    while the 90 of a 35mm camera will cover only the size of the film or ccd. that is why view camera lenses are more expensive.
    focal length produces the image size.

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    You are right and once you pointed it out it clicked. Thanks for all your help.

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