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blurriness in portion of art photo

This is a discussion on blurriness in portion of art photo within the General photography forums, part of the Photography & Fine art photography category; I'm with MA here - there is no rule...we'd need to see the picture to offer proper advice....

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    I'm with MA here - there is no rule...we'd need to see the picture to offer proper advice.
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    In art there are many different opinions about what is good and what is actually art. There are also just as many opinions about what is photography and what is computer programming. It's all what keeps things interesting I guess. Motion implied in photography is quite common. Panning with a fast subject, holding still on the background while the subject moves through the frame, making unreal looking waterfalls using ND filters, etc, are all means to show speed. There was a recent thread here about movement in the shots. Is it art? Is it play? We all have our own opinions. Some photography that goes for lots of money isn't worth a second look to me.

    In the example you refer to I'd have to say no, it's not art. In fact per your own admission it's just a mistake. Painters just don't throw coloured oil at a canvass and hope the Mona Lisa appears. Had you planned and executed a concept or idea you had preconceived and managed to capture the moment then it may have been art,,,to you. And that's good. Nobody can tell you what you do or do not like to look at. That's not what you did in this case though and didn't even recognize the visual until after the fact. It's just blurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    In art there are many different opinions about what is good and what is actually art. There are also just as many opinions about what is photography and what is computer programming. It's all what keeps things interesting I guess. Motion implied in photography is quite common. Panning with a fast subject, holding still on the background while the subject moves through the frame, making unreal looking waterfalls using ND filters, etc, are all means to show speed. There was a recent thread here about movement in the shots. Is it art? Is it play? We all have our own opinions. Some photography that goes for lots of money isn't worth a second look to me.

    In the example you refer to I'd have to say no, it's not art. In fact per your own admission it's just a mistake. Painters just don't throw coloured oil at a canvass and hope the Mona Lisa appears. Had you planned and executed a concept or idea you had preconceived and managed to capture the moment then it may have been art,,,to you. And that's good. Nobody can tell you what you do or do not like to look at. That's not what you did in this case though and didn't even recognize the visual until after the fact. It's just blurry.
    Careful about trying to describe art. Just saw a blurb on the news tonight about a monkey that's currently making hundreds of dollars per painting. He likes to use his hands, feet and tail to paint on canvases and they sell like hot cakes.
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    On another thread about a week ago I eluded to the artsy-fartsy crowd that ran galleries and count monkeys, elephants and Andreas Gursky as top artists. The problem with most of the overnight genre artists and their promoters is that tides shift fast in that world and what hangs on a wall today could be lining the bird cage next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iguanasan View Post
    Careful about trying to describe art. Just saw a blurb on the news tonight about a monkey that's currently making hundreds of dollars per painting. He likes to use his hands, feet and tail to paint on canvases and they sell like hot cakes.
    But people are also stupid....

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    I find this dialogue interesting, although I'm sure that to some of you it may be tiresome. Personally, if I like a photograph, the value wouldn't be diminished if I found out a blind person took it by accident.... on the other hand I can appreciate something that's been carefully crafted. After reading a some responses (which I respect, don't get me wrong ) maybe I should just slink away..... but I'm going to go ahead and show my partially blurry image.

    There may certainly be reasons other than the blurriness why this is not a "good" (help me find a better word here!) image - so have at it.

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    IMO, blurriness is great in many ways. For me though, with this image, I would of liked to have seen something that captures the eye specifically (the focus point) and then the blurriness wouldn't be a problem. Where this photo, to me, seems in whole an abstract, I would of liked it all in focus. But then again..it's personal preference.
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    From what I can see you have focused in the bottom right corner somewhere and the aperture was a bit too open to allow a decent depth of field creating the gradual blurriness as we look across the photo to the top left. This would have totally worked if you had been right down low and looking across the subject because then the blurriness would be in the background and helped to isolate the part you focused on more. Hope that makes sense.

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    This hasn't been a tiresome dialogue but it is a good example of why you should give as much information as you can right up front if you want helpful input from your peers in this style of work. Not posting your photo at the start and posing visual related questions made it hard to answer as the the first couple of responders found. Had you provided the photo in your first post you may have drawn in like-minded people and you may have received some input you could work with. You may have missed some valuable suggestions from visitors who took a look the first day but now don't go past the title of the thread. Don't slink away, work with it.

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