Gotta be more :)

[Michaelaw]

Is it Xmas yet!!

[Mad Aussie]

Sure ... why not! Merry Christmas M!

[F8&Bthere]

Michaelaw- there has to be more to the system change than just a cure for the blues.... Can I ask what you feel is lacking with your current setup? Or are you just feeling the pull to full frame?

I fought off the full frame bug recently and now kinda proud of myself. I think I was one of many who would have been doing it for all the wrong reasons. So now when I have the urge to go full frame and get the max benefits of certain lenses etc, I pull out my....wait for it...35mm film camera! Saved me $3K+.

[Michaelaw]

Though full frame is an attraction, it's not the main thrust behind my longing. The Olympus E-3 is a great camera that can deliver excellent results, on par with a d700 in my estimation. But I'm limited to ISO 1250 max. Low light demands flash. I'm starting to re evaluate my Nikon dream though as the lenses are out there price wise coupled with the fact that for a system I paid $4,800.00 for, the largest offer I've had is $1,500.00....Unacceptable! I am guilty of spur of the moment decision making, a personal flaw that has cost me much in the past. I'm now looking into faster lenses for the Olympus to see if I can get past the Noise issue. With the Nikon's I see noise at very high ISO but it looks close to film noise, the Olympus has a bad noise pattern and is prone to banding big time which is very frustrating. So I'm doing the research right now on the fastest lenses I can get to see If I can reach a compromise. As I said, the Olympus, in good light, is true performer with many innovations and qualities that are hard to find in other systems but the noise has to stop!!

PS...Though a Nikon would cure the photo blues for a spell, I realize, in time, the blues would return even if I got a D3x. That is a jellyware issue and zip to do with gear

[kat]

I'd be in my glory if I could just get a camera that auto brackets.... I'm looking to upgrade too but have no clue what to get. I'll wait till that time..most likely be more options before that time comes :(

[Greg_Nuspel]

Then you want a Hasselblad followed by a view camera with a scanning back and then after breaking your back you look at the newest point and shoot.......

[Michaelaw]

Maybe I bitch too much but you tell me. my car in the underground low light. Shot at 3200 ISO using 50mmf2.0 (fastest lens I own)


(1) raw not post




(2) raw with post to clean noise




Or this...Same lens, stereo is in a very poorly lit area. All these are shot raw.


(3) raw no post 3200 ISO




(4) Same image with enhanced blacks and noise reduction




Tripod based ISO 100 same lens shows (Other than the fact I need to do some dusting) what I'm seeing the D700 do at ISO 5000, not quite as good but real close!




The car shot had more light than the home theater ergo less noise. full on daylight @ ISO 3200 using a slowish 40-150mm give hardly any noise




I'd just like to be able to shoot the home theater shot at 3200 with little or no noise.

[JAS_Photo]

For comparison's sake, here is a shot I took at folkfest with the D300 at 9:39 in the evening. Click on photo for the larger version. Raw photo no adjustments.



Camera: Nikon D300
Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO Speed: 3200

[Michaelaw]

I don't like you anymore!!!!

That's what I'm on about! The E-3 can't keep that pace and it bothers me. Now maybe I'm going overboard wanting the d700, but i figure if I'm going to get into a Nikon, I'll start with something that it seems will take me where I want to go for a good while.

Actually at 9:30 it's still fairly bright out so the Oly might not fair too badly, I'll give it a quick test in the next while. That would make the comparison fair rather than a spew from my pissed off, ranting, biased point of view

[JAS_Photo]

Lol, I thought the photo was very noisy and too bright! What I learned from that is if I want a evening shot high ISO is not the way to go necessarily. I want it to still look like evening yet have a picture there. I don't know if that makes sense exactly but I do not want the camera turning night into daylight which is what I got. So I am thinking I should just under expose my high ISO shots or use lower ISO, I guess?