Much thanks Iggy and Marko. I appreciate the comments very much. Well Iggy, don't remember his exact words but it was something along the lines of "well I guess it's a good picture but it's a picture of me and I don't really like pictures of me." But he was grateful and thanked me anyway and told me that he was going to give it to his sister because she saw a digital file of it and wanted it. oh, BTW, It was the color version, before I did this PP and conversion, that I gave him. But pretty much the same crop though, just not as tight as this one.