500px.Katerina Plotnikova

[JAS_Photo]

I would agree if that were a commercial shoot, where the concept, sets, make-up and design was put together by an art director, but there are a lot of photographers out there who are artists in their own right and hire the models, stylists and sets to accomplish the concept they have in mind. In that case, the photographer is the artist and they deserve the credit. In this case the photographer is most likely highly accomplished at photoshop as well. 1x.com is full of concept photographers for example.
Peter Kemp being a prime example:

http://1x.com/member/peterkemp

For some reason the 1x link seem s to not work:
http://www.peterkemp.nl/

The reason I chose the McNally clip is to show that there are lots of people involved in even his shoots which look very unstaged quite often. And yes he has stylists and hair dressers as well.

[Marko]

I would disagree with your BW teacher AT. Most people, myself included consider Adams a Master.
He co-invented the Zone system for God's sake and I've been lucky enough to see prints of his up close. They are fab. They sing. Other photographers' works also sing due to Adams techniques. His work is of the HIGHEST quality.

It's like Saying Rembrandt was a hack because he only used one type of light. (that was named after him...lol)

But we are getting off topic. The Mcnally video clearly has a team of people working for him. i think that's off topic too.

Anyway, I'd like to see other pros get the credit when they have made a tremendous impact on the image and this happens mostly in the fashion world.... it would be nice but I never expect it.

This one person getting all the credit phenomenon is just part of life. Architects, Conductors, Directors....same thing.

[theantiquetiger]

I would disagree with your BW teacher AT. Most people, myself included consider Adams a Master.
He co-invented the Zone system for God's sake and I've been lucky enough to see prints of his up close. They are fab. They sing. Other photographers' works also sing due to Adams techniques. His work is of the HIGHEST quality.

Yeah, I we alittle shocked when she said it myself. Apparently, thats the only thing I remember from that class. She now teaches private classes at the camera shop that I shop at all the time now. She is a street photographer, with kind of a shock art style. At that time, Adams was my favorite artist, so it really stung me.

[Marko]

No prob - that's what makes the world fun He also made portraits - fab ones. Off topic again - gotta stop.

[theantiquetiger]

I am digging the Facebook post you did today on Ansel Adams

[JAS_Photo]

Marko, I did not see your FB post. I would be interested to see it. Could you please add the link here? My newsfeed is pretty busy

[theantiquetiger]

Marko, I did not see your FB post. I would be interested to see it. Could you please add the link here? My newsfeed is pretty busy

Ansel Adams Reveals His Creative Process in 1958 Documentary | Open Culture

[Barefoot]

I would agree if that were a commercial shoot, where the concept, sets, make-up and design was put together by an art director, but there are a lot of photographers out there who are artists in their own right and hire the models, stylists and sets to accomplish the concept they have in mind. In that case, the photographer is the artist and they deserve the credit. In this case the photographer is most likely highly accomplished at photoshop as well. 1x.com is full of concept photographers for example.Peter Kemp being a prime example

I'm with you all the way, JAS. I can't think of a better example of artistic vision than that of this hack.

[JAS_Photo]

I'm with you all the way, JAS. I can't think of a better example of artistic vision than that of this hack.

I had to find the movie online and watch it.

The movie is showing on Netflix right now, if anyone is interested in watching it. I found it fascinating and really, this photographer deserves his own thread for discussion.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Gr...nters/70251860