Distasteful or art? (Warning - graphic photo)

[Mad Aussie]

I certainly wasn't offended by the image at all.

You shouldn't be offended by peoples comments either SJ ... you asked for opinions and you got them. If we simply told you what you wanted to hear rather than the truth then you might as well go into your bathroom and talk to yourself in the mirror.

I think the point myself and AL were making (he'll correct if I'm wrong) is that 'we feel' (our opinions not necessarily the only viewpoints in the world) is that if you are going to shoot graphic subjects then there needs to be more structure and creative work happening. There needs to be a reason to shoot it at all.

I've liked several of your photos beforehand, but not this one, and there will be others I will not like either. And if you ask me to comment on those ones I will again tell you I don't like them. Just as others do for me. I learn that way. I learn that not everything I think looks good, looks good to others. I learn different ways to do things. I learn more about other peoples perspectives and how I can appeal to them. You could do the same mate.

[Siejones]

I certainly wasn't offended by the image at all.

You shouldn't be offended by peoples comments either SJ ... you asked for opinions and you got them. If we simply told you what you wanted to hear rather than the truth then you might as well go into your bathroom and talk to yourself in the mirror.

I think the point myself and AL were making (he'll correct if I'm wrong) is that 'we feel' (our opinions not necessarily the only viewpoints in the world) is that if you are going to shoot graphic subjects then there needs to be more structure and creative work happening. There needs to be a reason to shoot it at all.

I've liked several of your photos beforehand, but not this one, and there will be others I will not like either. And if you ask me to comment on those ones I will again tell you I don't like them. Just as others do for me. I learn that way. I learn that not everything I think looks good, looks good to others. I learn different ways to do things. I learn more about other peoples perspectives and how I can appeal to them. You could do the same mate.

I understand how critique works and have taken much and will no doubt do so in the future but the replys seemed a bit of blatent rubbishing. I wonder if they would have been so harsh with a less graphic subject?

When giving critique some important few words are "in my opinion". If your going to give a point of view you must inform everyone that you don't blatently think you are right and there is no alternative. Photography is as subjective and music, movies and just about any other artform and you must be careful you are not seeming to dictate your point of view.

We can all learn from critique but you must remember that the poster is the artist and when posting he/she has posted the image they wanted to show. The colours, PP, composition were all chosen by them because thats what they chose by artistic preference. You must remember this when giving good critique.

[Mad Aussie]

When giving critique some important few words are "in my opinion". If your going to give a point of view you must inform everyone that you don't blatently think you are right and there is no alternative. Photography is as subjective and music, movies and just about any other artform and you must be careful you are not seeming to dictate your point of view.

We can all learn from critique but you must remember that the poster is the artist and when posting he/she has posted the image they wanted to show. The colours, PP, composition were all chosen by them because thats what they chose by artistic preference. You must remember this when giving good critique.

You asked what WE think. Not whether we care what you think. You got exactly what you asked for. The truth as we saw it. There is no right or wrong here ... just different tastes of your image.

AND, if you re-read my first comment which you can see is NOT edited in any way ... my first words were ... "In my opinion "

My opinion NOW ... is that you were too easily offended and have gone onto the defensive after hearing things you didn't want to hear.

Here's a tip ... if you can't handle what others think (which is only their subjective opinion anyhow) ... don't ask for their opinions.


I looked at those examples you put up ... dead gull , dead horse. Both black and white to convey the death more creatively and both taken from a more creative angle. Again, just my opinion ... but again ... you asked!

[Siejones]

You asked what WE think. Not whether we care what you think. You got exactly what you asked for. The truth as we saw it. There is no right or wrong here ... just different tastes of your image.

AND, if you re-read my first comment which you can see is NOT edited in any way ... my first words were ... "In my opinion "

My opinion NOW ... is that you were too easily offended and have gone onto the defensive after hearing things you didn't want to hear.

Here's a tip ... if you can't handle what others think (which is only their subjective opinion anyhow) ... don't ask for their opinions.


I looked at those examples you put up ... dead gull , dead horse. Both black and white to convey the death more creatively and both taken from a more creative angle. Again, just my opinion ... but again ... you asked!

Now we are getting offensive!

Yes black and white would make all the difference and nothing would have been said then. They are both from above...how's that more creative than my above shot? The slight angle.....oooohh I see

Nevermind....

[Mad Aussie]

Now we are getting offensive!

Yes black and white would make all the difference and nothing would have been said then.

Nevermind....

You have a thing with 'offensive' it seems. Obviously (in my opinion), you are beyond reasonable discussion and have chosen to elevate the discussion to places it need not have gone.

If you come here with preconceived views and inflexibility towards your images then why ask anyhow about them?

And making your image black and white may have helped a little but would not have satisfied my view that your image lacked creative composition.

[Siejones]

You have a thing with 'offensive' it seems. Obviously (in my opinion), you are beyond reasonable discussion and have chosen to elevate the discussion to places it need not have gone.

If you come here with preconceived views and inflexibility towards your images then why ask anyhow about them?

And making your image black and white may have helped a little but would not have satisfied my view that your image lacked creative composition.

Yes the slight angle change the "master" photographer eliot porter chose would have made all the difference.

Yes I am upset and offended because what I am hearing is just feable excuses for utter nonsence. Of coarse you wouldn't slate a renowned master photographers work but your excuses for comparsions are very very weak.

[Barefoot]

[Mad Aussie]

Put your popcorn away Barefoot I'm done wasting effort on someone who thinks they have nothing to learn and want to be abusive about it. I'd be better off going and making a website called www.onlymyopinionmatters.com for guys like SJ there.