Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 23

Post Processing Sharpening - the Mad way!

This is a discussion on Post Processing Sharpening - the Mad way! within the Photoshop - graphics programs - pluggins - for photography forums, part of the Education & Technical category; Thanks so much for that MA - You rock! Just as an FYI, some people like to know the percentage ...

  1. #11
    Marko's Avatar
    Marko is offline Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC. Canada
    Posts
    14,870
    My Photos
    Please do NOT edit my photos
    Critiques
    Critique my photos anywhere in the forum

    Default

    Thanks so much for that MA - You rock!

    Just as an FYI, some people like to know the percentage of shots that require sharpening. I shoot in RAW and I use sharpening tools on 99.5% of all my images. I cannot remember the last time I did not sharpen (even if it's only a tad) an image.
    - Please connect with me further
    Photo tours of Montreal - Private photography courses
    - Join the new Photography.ca Facebook page
    - Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/markokulik
    - Follow me on Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/111159185852360398018/posts
    - Check out the photography podcast


    "You have to milk the cow quite a lot, and get plenty of milk to get a little cheese." Henri Cartier-Bresson from The Decisive Moment.

  2. #12
    Mad Aussie's Avatar
    Mad Aussie is offline Moderator
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Brisbane, Qld, Australia
    Posts
    14,098
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos

    Default

    Thanks marko

    I do usually sharpen a little at least on about 90% of my shots I guess. It depends on what I want. Some shots, using that method I've described above, have extensive sharpening in selective areas obviously.

  3. #13
    kat
    kat is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    4,329
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos
    Critiques
    Only critique photos posted in the critique forum

    Default

    Here's my question. Correct me if I am wrong, but would one use different amount (%) of sharpening depending on the size you are printing? How would you know without a print actually in front of you? Boy..I hope this doesn't come out as stupid!!!
    My new blog as of Nov/10
    http://katchickloski.wordpress.com/

  4. #14
    Mad Aussie's Avatar
    Mad Aussie is offline Moderator
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Brisbane, Qld, Australia
    Posts
    14,098
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kat View Post
    Here's my question. Correct me if I am wrong, but would one use different amount (%) of sharpening depending on the size you are printing? How would you know without a print actually in front of you? Boy..I hope this doesn't come out as stupid!!!
    Perfectly good question.
    I usually use a similar % (using unsharp mask) but I use a different radius depending on the size of the photo I'm sharpening.
    I make the decision on how much the ahrpening is taking effect as I use the %. If I'm up at 80 -100% and not seeing enough sharpening I usually increase the radius.

  5. #15
    kat
    kat is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    4,329
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos
    Critiques
    Only critique photos posted in the critique forum

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Aussie View Post
    Perfectly good question.
    I usually use a similar % (using unsharp mask) but I use a different radius depending on the size of the photo I'm sharpening.
    I make the decision on how much the ahrpening is taking effect as I use the %. If I'm up at 80 -100% and not seeing enough sharpening I usually increase the radius.
    That makes perfect sense! Thank you!!!
    My new blog as of Nov/10
    http://katchickloski.wordpress.com/

  6. #16
    Marko's Avatar
    Marko is offline Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC. Canada
    Posts
    14,870
    My Photos
    Please do NOT edit my photos
    Critiques
    Critique my photos anywhere in the forum

    Default

    I use considerably more (probably around 30%) sharpening when the image is for print.
    - Please connect with me further
    Photo tours of Montreal - Private photography courses
    - Join the new Photography.ca Facebook page
    - Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/markokulik
    - Follow me on Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/111159185852360398018/posts
    - Check out the photography podcast


    "You have to milk the cow quite a lot, and get plenty of milk to get a little cheese." Henri Cartier-Bresson from The Decisive Moment.

  7. #17
    kat
    kat is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    4,329
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos
    Critiques
    Only critique photos posted in the critique forum

    Default

    Now here's the next question. The bigger the print..won't you see the noise from sharpening? Or is there noise. I've never sharpened my photos before print..always thought everything was sooo soft..now I know why! And here i was blaming the lens/camera and myself!!!!
    My new blog as of Nov/10
    http://katchickloski.wordpress.com/

  8. #18
    kat
    kat is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    4,329
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos
    Critiques
    Only critique photos posted in the critique forum

    Default

    And now I'm confused again. Do you use unsharp mask marko? do you mean it's at 30% in that?
    My new blog as of Nov/10
    http://katchickloski.wordpress.com/

  9. #19
    Marko's Avatar
    Marko is offline Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC. Canada
    Posts
    14,870
    My Photos
    Please do NOT edit my photos
    Critiques
    Critique my photos anywhere in the forum

    Default

    I sometimes use unsharp mask and I sometimes use smart sharpen.

    Whatever I use, when the shot is destined for printing (something like an 8x10) that shot will likely require 30% more sharpening (or more) than if that same shot was destined for the web.

    Please keep in mind that this is my personal recipe..and I'm giving average numbers (sometimes I sharpen more, sometimes less), and by NO means should anyone accept this as gospel. YOUR camera and PP technique may require you to use your own recipe.

    Now here's the next question. The bigger the print..won't you see the noise from sharpening? Or is there noise. I've never sharpened my photos before print..always thought everything was sooo soft..now I know why! And here i was blaming the lens/camera and myself!!!!
    IF you look at the print from 1 inch away, yes you may see the effects of the sharpening. I forget the formula for the correct distance to look at prints according to their size...but if you respect that distance, the sharpening should not be noticeable.
    Of course you CAN oversharpen and you'll see these artifacts. A VERY general guide might be 100-200% sharpening for an 8x10 with a radius around 1.0 and a threshold around 0. Again, your recipe may vary depending on the camera, image and PP technique.

    The only point I really wanted to make is that in general, in my experience, print images require a significant boost in sharpening regardless of which sharpening technique you use.


    Hope that helps - Marko
    Last edited by Marko; 09-16-2009 at 12:08 PM.
    - Please connect with me further
    Photo tours of Montreal - Private photography courses
    - Join the new Photography.ca Facebook page
    - Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/markokulik
    - Follow me on Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/111159185852360398018/posts
    - Check out the photography podcast


    "You have to milk the cow quite a lot, and get plenty of milk to get a little cheese." Henri Cartier-Bresson from The Decisive Moment.

  10. #20
    kat
    kat is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Vancouver
    Posts
    4,329
    My Photos
    Please ask before editing my photos
    Critiques
    Only critique photos posted in the critique forum

    Default

    Okay, I got yah! I think it's time to start playing around with the sharpening! Thank you!
    My new blog as of Nov/10
    http://katchickloski.wordpress.com/

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36